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Uncategorized Boards => BETAS => Topic started by: orux on August 23, 2022, 07:00:00 PM

Title: New beta versions 9.4.xx [CLOSED]
Post by: orux on August 23, 2022, 07:00:00 PM
Hello!

It is time for a new beta version.

beta1:
            —>Viewshed calculation (Map tools-->viewshed)
            —>Improved interface.

beta2:           
            —>New SOS SMS notification system. Given the limitations of the SOS function, that we cannot use the sending of SMS as Google restricts the use of that permission and that sending emails using a Gmail account no longer works, I have created an independent app, which does the same function, standalone or it can be activated/deactivated from OruxMaps. 
The new app (use with care, under testing!).
            —>Bugs corrections.

beta3:
            —>Bugs corrections.
            —>OruxSoS update.

beta4:
            —>New dashboard controls, averaged pitch/roll, added to the instantaneous measurements, to give stability to the values, for example using the bike. You can modify the time in global configuration-->sensors-->orientation sensors.
            —>New dashboard controls, averaged power T1 and T2. For BT and ANT+ bike power sensors. You can configure the T1 and T2 in global settings-->sensors-->Power bike BT or sensors-->ANT+.


beta5:
            —>bugs correction.


beta6:
            —>bugs correction with garmin typ files.


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orux.oruxsos (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orux.oruxsos)



Use previously this beta apk if you want to use the directories in the root of the internal/SD storage.
https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk (https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk)






orux
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Lenz on August 23, 2022, 10:57:34 PM
Hello Orux!
When I started the new beta, i didn't recognize 'my' mountains: the light for hill shading now comes from SW instead of NW. Very challenging for an old man's brain ... but maybe it's just a bug.

The new viewshed function is really great!
One suggestion: Could you add the possibility to invert the colouring of the visible/not visible areas. I think it is more intuitive to have the non visible areas dimmed than the visible ones.

Could you please add a button to add to the button bar for the function 'Compass always visible'?

Lenz
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: jose.h on August 24, 2022, 01:41:21 PM
Hola, tengo un problema que por más que lo intento no se solucionar, pasaba también en versiones anteriores de la beta, explico lo que me sucede.
Uso Oruxmaps para mis salidas en bicicleta mountain baike, desde hace poco uso otra aplicación para guardar los tracks, puesto que me permite usar el giroscopo del teléfono para indicarme la pendiente actual (ya se que eso también lo hace Oruxmaps, pero esa aplicación hace más medias (creo que de unos 3 segundos y el resultado es muy bueno, con oruxmaps es demasiado inestable pues entiendo que afecta cada pedalada), además en esa aplicación puedo tener la temperatura desde un dispositivo bluetooth muy barato. Sigo usando oruxmaps para seguir las rutas, medir distancias, etc pues me gusta mucho más. Explico lo que me pasa: He desconectado todos los sensores de oruxmaps, puesto que los datos de los sensores los lee la otra aplicación,  pero recibo un aviso contínuamente de que se ha perdido la conexión con el dispositivo Bluetooth, pero no se cual es, y ya no se donde mirar.

Agradecería alguna ayuda.

Muchas gracias.

------------translated with google translate ----------

Hello, I have a problem that no matter how hard I try, I can't solve it, it also happened in previous versions of the beta, I explain what happens to me.
I use Oruxmaps for my mountain bike rides, recently I use another application to save the tracks, since it allows me to use the phone's gyroscope to indicate the current slope (I know Oruxmaps does that too, but that application does more averages (I think about 3 seconds and the result is very good, with oruxmaps it is too unstable because I understand that it affects each pedal stroke), also in that application I can have the temperature from a very cheap bluetooth device. I continue using oruxmaps to follow the routes , measure distances, etc. I like it much more. I explain what happens to me: I have disconnected all the oruxmaps sensors, since the sensor data is read by the other application, but I continually receive a warning that the connection has been lost with the Bluetooth device, but I don't know what it is, and I don't know where to look anymore.

I would appreciate some help.

Thank you very much.

Editado:

No se si hay algún log en el que pueda ver a que sensor se está intentando conectar

Edited:

I don't know if there is any log where I can see which sensor it is trying to connect to
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Tronpo on August 26, 2022, 10:32:32 AM
Hola Orux!!
Felicidades por la nueva imagen , en mi opinión hacía falta ,ahora la interfaz  es más visual.
Botones redondos y la personalización de los elementos del visor de mapas fantástico.
Los menús desplegables en los gestores favorecen el uso al usuario general ,con la definición de cada función.
La "cuenca visual" muy útil para tener una referencia,sería bueno poder guardar el área de visión en la base de datos.

Saludos:𝕥𝕣𝕠ℕ𝕡𝕠
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on August 26, 2022, 03:26:27 PM
Hello,
I have strange results using the new fonction Viewshed.
Can you have a look to the 2 pictures below (Relief Map and Viewshed) and tell me why there is a vertical straight line?

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/22/I6rS.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/22/I6rS.jpg)   (https://mini.ouplo.com/16/22/HepN.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/22/HepN.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: ut on August 27, 2022, 07:52:48 PM
Hi Orux,
very nice new interface! 8)
I would request you  a new function in order to use vocal messages TTS for ascending quote
In general settings - voice - tracks if I select "1" at "Distance for TTS"  I correctly get my selected "messages to speak" every 1km.
On the other side in some mountain activities (sky-alp, vertical Km race) distance (Km) is not significant, but is is interesting
the difference in height (m) / ascending quote (m).
So I'd like (and I think it can be usefull for many people) to receive a vocal message every 100m (or 50m) of difference in height made.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Haldo on August 27, 2022, 08:24:46 PM
Quote from: ut on August 27, 2022, 07:52:48 PM
Hi Orux,
very nice new interface! 8)
I would request you  a new function in order to use vocal messages TTS for ascending quote
In general settings - voice - tracks if I select "1" at "Distance for TTS"  I correctly get my selected "messages to speak" every 1km.
On the other side in some mountain activities (sky-alp, vertical Km race) distance (Km) is not significant, but is is interesting
the difference in height (m) / ascending quote (m).
So I'd like (and I think it can be usefull for many people) to receive a vocal message every 100m (or 50m) of difference in height made.


or...if I may....   when one reach a certain altitude....  like a message when reaching.... for instance... 2000 meters or some other value that the user sets
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on August 28, 2022, 02:17:20 PM
Hello,
I still have GPS issue with my Huawei p40 pro +.

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg)

Sometimes, after a long period without any action from my part on the smartphone, the GPS seem to switch off.
I try lot of things but noway, problem remains ☹️.
I just have to launch another application using GPS (GPS Locker for example) and to signal comes back for Oruxmaps.

If a audio warning is send by Oruxmaps when the GPS signal is lost I could do something quickly to solve the problem.
Is it possible to do that?
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on August 28, 2022, 10:11:27 PM
Hello Orux,

it looks that in this beta the "re-creation / re-generation of thumbnails" doesn't work at all.

Please let me know if there is a new option now.

Regards, Andrea

PS: I have screenshots to show you, but I cannot upload due to the 500kB limitation
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: ut on August 29, 2022, 06:40:06 PM
Quote from: YvanCB on August 28, 2022, 02:17:20 PM
Hello,
I still have GPS issue with my Huawei p40 pro +.

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg)

Sometimes, after a long period without any action from my part on the smartphone, the GPS seem to switch off.
I try lot of things but noway, problem remains ☹️.
I just have to launch another application using GPS (GPS Locker for example) and to signal comes back for Oruxmaps.

If a audio warning is send by Oruxmaps when the GPS signal is lost I could do something quickly to solve the problem.
Is it possible to do that?
Regards.

Perhaps I'am saying trivial things, but I suggest you to verify 2 android settings:
- gps: oruxmaps can access gps position always and not only durings use
- battery management: oruxmaps is never optimized, that is it can run in background
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on August 30, 2022, 06:42:49 AM
Quote from: ut on August 29, 2022, 06:40:06 PM
Perhaps I'am saying trivial things, but I suggest you to verify 2 android settings:
- gps: oruxmaps can access gps position always and not only durings use
- battery management: oruxmaps is never optimized, that is it can run in background

Thank you "UT"  for the answer but I have done these 2 things.
I'm lost😢😭.
Title: Bug in Viewshed erasure in new beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on August 30, 2022, 07:14:01 AM
Hello Orux,
The first time I use the new function called "viewshed" the menu to erase the blue overlay is not present (overlay options/remove overlay).
I have to load another time a "viewshed".
Regards.

PS: If I use the button "Tweak Overlay" on the side bar it's possible to hide or delete this overlay.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Tronpo on August 30, 2022, 09:20:20 AM
Quote from: YvanCB on August 26, 2022, 03:26:27 PM
Hello,
I have strange results using the new fonction Viewshed.
Can you have a look to the 2 pictures below (Relief Map and Viewshed) and tell me why there is a vertical straight line?

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/22/I6rS.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/22/I6rS.jpg)   (https://mini.ouplo.com/16/22/HepN.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/22/HepN.jpg)

Regards.

hello!! the visual basin uses the DEM files for the calculation, maybe it was an error when do the algorithm have you tried them again?or with other DEM files?
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on August 30, 2022, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: Lenz on August 23, 2022, 10:57:34 PM
Hello Orux!
When I started the new beta, i didn't recognize 'my' mountains: the light for hill shading now comes from SW instead of NW. Very challenging for an old man's brain ... but maybe it's just a bug.

The new viewshed function is really great!
One suggestion: Could you add the possibility to invert the colouring of the visible/not visible areas. I think it is more intuitive to have the non visible areas dimmed than the visible ones.

Could you please add a button to add to the button bar for the function 'Compass always visible'?

Lenz
With the current beta version this problem should be solved.
Delete the vector cache to force the refresh of that tiles,

orux
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on August 30, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: ut on August 27, 2022, 07:52:48 PM
Hi Orux,
very nice new interface! 8)
I would request you  a new function in order to use vocal messages TTS for ascending quote
In general settings - voice - tracks if I select "1" at "Distance for TTS"  I correctly get my selected "messages to speak" every 1km.
On the other side in some mountain activities (sky-alp, vertical Km race) distance (Km) is not significant, but is is interesting
the difference in height (m) / ascending quote (m).
So I'd like (and I think it can be usefull for many people) to receive a vocal message every 100m (or 50m) of difference in height made.
Thanks!

I will add that option, it is a good idea,


orux
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on August 30, 2022, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: YvanCB on August 28, 2022, 02:17:20 PM
Hello,
I still have GPS issue with my Huawei p40 pro +.

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/17/V4dH.jpg)

Sometimes, after a long period without any action from my part on the smartphone, the GPS seem to switch off.
I try lot of things but noway, problem remains ☹️.
I just have to launch another application using GPS (GPS Locker for example) and to signal comes back for Oruxmaps.

If a audio warning is send by Oruxmaps when the GPS signal is lost I could do something quickly to solve the problem.
Is it possible to do that?
Regards.

Battery management is a big problem. It seems that Android 13 introduces improvements about that.

In addition to what you have been told, the phone should not be in power saving mode.

Also check dontkillmyapp.com because some manufacturers include additional tweaks to the standard Android.

orux

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on August 30, 2022, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: Andrea65 on August 28, 2022, 10:11:27 PM
Hello Orux,

it looks that in this beta the "re-creation / re-generation of thumbnails" doesn't work at all.

Please let me know if there is a new option now.

Regards, Andrea

PS: I have screenshots to show you, but I cannot upload due to the 500kB limitation

I think it is working fine.
If you have selected a custom map for that in Tracks settings-->Map for thumbnails, check that the map is working fine.


orux

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on August 30, 2022, 04:07:06 PM
Hello Orux,
Eveb with beta2 I cannot recreate/correct wrong course thumbs...
Regards
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on August 30, 2022, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: orux on August 30, 2022, 04:06:22 PM
I think it is working fine.
If you have selected a custom map for that in Tracks settings-->Map for thumbnails, check that the map is working fine.


orux

I use default map settings.
And it is not only about the map data, it is the overall trace not rendered appropriately.

I mean, I made a hike having a loop shape, but the thumb image is showing a line.

Please, remove the 500kB limits and I will upload the screenshots.

Regards, Andrea
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on August 30, 2022, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: orux on August 30, 2022, 04:04:24 PM
Battery management is a big problem. It seems that Android 13 introduces improvements about that.

In addition to what you have been told, the phone should not be in power saving mode.

Also check dontkillmyapp.com because some manufacturers include additional tweaks to the standard Android.

orux

Hello,
My Huawei P40 pro + uses EMUI 12.
Impossible to know what version of Android is under that EMUI version.
I tried dontkillmyapp.com but they don't talk about my EMUI version.

I have a last thing to test. The performance mode on battery management..

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/23/aqAO.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/23/aqAO.jpg)

🤞🤞🤞

Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: lneam on August 31, 2022, 12:29:38 AM
Quote from: YvanCB on August 30, 2022, 04:48:40 PM
Hello,
My Huawei P40 pro + uses EMUI 12.
Impossible to know what version of Android is under that EMUI version.
I tried dontkillmyapp.com but they don't talk about my EMUI version.

after a google search ...
Is EMUI 12 based on Android?
As of now, benchmark and software details have shown that EMUI 12 is based on Android 10, which is an old Android version.Jul 23, 2022
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on August 31, 2022, 07:12:06 PM
Hello Orux, also with Beta3, I am having the same problem.
I cannot reload/re-create the trace thumbnail.

Would you kindly tell me which should be the correct process with this new 9.4.x version?

I am now doubting I am doing something wrong

Regards, Andrea
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Uli on August 31, 2022, 09:29:52 PM
oruxsos:
good idea.
If hurt one might not be able to activate sos on the watch.
So far it works quite well.
I will activate it on my lonely bike rides.
Uli
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 01, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: Andrea65 on August 31, 2022, 07:12:06 PM
Hello Orux, also with Beta3, I am having the same problem.
I cannot reload/re-create the trace thumbnail.

Would you kindly tell me which should be the correct process with this new 9.4.x version?

I am now doubting I am doing something wrong

Regards, Andrea

I'm not sure what could be the problem on your phone.

Go to settings-->Tracks-->map for thumbnails, and select OpenStreetMap Mapnik (we know this map should work).

Then go to the properties of a track-->statistics-->click on the thumbnail and accept to update it.

orux
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: carth4 on September 01, 2022, 10:27:40 AM
Hello, one of the last updates caused the following problem: For all gpx
tracks exported to the "tracklogs" folder, the individually entered text in
the "Description" section has disappeared. That means: All personal notes
are gone. Instead, only the entire route data appears for all gpx tracks
that are imported again. This is the case with Samsung S7 Android 8.0.0,
Samsung S9 Android 10.0 and Samsung Tablet S5 Android 11.00. I use versions
9.0.4 and 9.4.0beta3. Thus, a meaningful backup or complete transfer of my
extensive track collection when changing smartphones is currently not
possible or all personal information will be lost!! Attached is a
screenshot of the original track from the Orux track database and a
screenshot from the previously exported gpx file. Best regards Sigi
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: carth4 on September 01, 2022, 10:31:26 AM
Sorry, the second screenshot

Sigi
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 01, 2022, 03:41:06 PM
Quote from: carth4 on September 01, 2022, 10:27:40 AM
Hello, one of the last updates caused the following problem: For all gpx
tracks exported to the "tracklogs" folder, the individually entered text in
the "Description" section has disappeared. That means: All personal notes
are gone. Instead, only the entire route data appears for all gpx tracks
that are imported again. This is the case with Samsung S7 Android 8.0.0,
Samsung S9 Android 10.0 and Samsung Tablet S5 Android 11.00. I use versions
9.0.4 and 9.4.0beta3. Thus, a meaningful backup or complete transfer of my
extensive track collection when changing smartphones is currently not
possible or all personal information will be lost!! Attached is a
screenshot of the original track from the Orux track database and a
screenshot from the previously exported gpx file. Best regards Sigi

Hello!

When you export a Track from the tracks list, the app adds the Track information to the existing description.

Please check this. The description in the oruxmaps database is not deleted.
Please, confirm this.


orux

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 01, 2022, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: orux on September 01, 2022, 03:41:06 PM
Hello!

When you export a Track from the tracks list, the app adds the Track information to the existing description.

Please check this. The description in the oruxmaps database is not deleted.
Please, confirm this.


orux

I have done the test.  For me the text entered manually in description stays when I export the track. Other information  s are added automatically (Type,  Start time,  finish time, etc...).
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on September 02, 2022, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: orux on September 01, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
I'm not sure what could be the problem on your phone.

Go to settings-->Tracks-->map for thumbnails, and select OpenStreetMap Mapnik (we know this map should work).

Then go to the properties of a track-->statistics-->click on the thumbnail and accept to update it.

orux

Hello Orux, I am sorry, I followed your instruction but nothing happened.
I am still having this "horrible" picture (see attachment) instead of the effective recorded trace thumbnail.

Please, kindly tell me how to change the interface language, so that I will retry again the process.
Just for your info, in my Italian interface the "thumbanil update button" is labeled as "Ricarica le miniature della traccia".
Do you confirm is this it?

Thanks and regards,
Andrea
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: carth4 on September 02, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Quote from: orux on September 01, 2022, 03:41:06 PM
Hello!

When you export a Track from the tracks list, the app adds the Track information to the existing description.

Please check this. The description in the oruxmaps database is not deleted.
Please, confirm this.


orux
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: carth4 on September 02, 2022, 02:25:26 PM
Hello, thank you very much for the quick responses.

I noticed that with the newer tracks the personal notes are preserved. To check it again, I copied the whole "tracklogs" folder from S9 smartphone to PC again and then transferred it to S5 tablet. All notes disappeared again with my previous longtime inventory. Individual transfers do not bring a different result either. The absence of own notes can be narrowed down to about after 29.06.2022. Around this date many tracks happened to be recorded.
The records are also a nice diary for me.  Just also the notes with the help of the search function. It would be nice if you find a solution for the old stock.
Enclosed again two screenshots.

As a long time fan of Oruxmaps thank you for your excellent work.

Best regards

Sigi

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: carth4 on September 02, 2022, 03:55:36 PM

Hello,

sorry there was a mistake in my text:

The absence of own notes can be narrowed down to about "till" 29.06.2022.

Best regards
Sigi
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 03, 2022, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Andrea65 on September 02, 2022, 01:26:29 PM
Hello Orux, I am sorry, I followed your instruction but nothing happened.
I am still having this "horrible" picture (see attachment) instead of the effective recorded trace thumbnail.

Please, kindly tell me how to change the interface language, so that I will retry again the process.
Just for your info, in my Italian interface the "thumbanil update button" is labeled as "Ricarica le miniature della traccia".
Do you confirm is this it?

Thanks and regards,
Andrea

With some online maps (including OpenStreetMaps) sometimes the server sends black tiles instead of the real ones, instead of returning an error message. The app does not know that they are erroneous tiles, and stores them in the cache.

Go to Maps-->refresh tiles and delete the map tiles you are using to generate the thumbnails from the cache.

Then try to generate the thumbnails again.

orux

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Andrea65 on September 03, 2022, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: orux on September 03, 2022, 09:19:58 AM
With some online maps (including OpenStreetMaps) sometimes the server sends black tiles instead of the real ones, instead of returning an error message. The app does not know that they are erroneous tiles, and stores them in the cache.

Go to Maps-->refresh tiles and delete the map tiles you are using to generate the thumbnails from the cache.

Then try to generate the thumbnails again.

orux

Hello Orux, thanks for your further support, but even this time, no way to have that recorded trace with a good thumbnail.

By the way, in the pure spirit of cooperation and honest feedback, I have to report to you the following:
1) Since my first use of your app (2 years ago or so), I never understood why a so complex menu and why 2 or 3 entries for the same topic (like traces, waypoints and maps).
2) Why traces, waypoints and maps have i) a page entry with their name, ii) another page entry with their icon, and iii) another page entry with the Gear-icon? I find all this confusing and if you do not use the app daily, you get lost every time.
3) Still today, I do not have understood how to set the "language" option for the full interface: I am still have some part in Italian, others in English and "probably" I also jumped over some line in Spanish (no problem, I can read Spanish as well). Is there the option to set the language? Where?

In my opinion, you should consider to redesign the menu and the tons of configuration options following more a human centric approach (simpler menu, fewer options....)

Thanks and regards, Andrea
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: tstreibl on September 03, 2022, 12:13:59 PM
Hello Orux,

found some small improvement options for Beta 4 and the Play Store Edition (both show same behaviour):
-  when you toggle the route alarm the route alarm symbol is not updated
-  there's a great option to load multiple routes into the map or to create multiple routes with the routing tool. Each route has a start and an end waypoint which you can touch to see a menue about the route. When I choose "follow route" in this menue the app doesn't follow the activated route. It always follows the route which was created first. You can test this by creating a short and a long route. In the height diagram you see the length of the route you follow. If you remove the first route and choose "follow route" the app still follows the deleted route! It would be great if we could select which route is the "active route". Maybe you even could make this choice visible somehow (e.g. use a grey color for inaktive routes)? The advantage:  you could plan different route options, load them all together in the map and choose duing your ride where to go.
- if you create a route with the routing tool and save it into the database it would be nice if the app would ask for a name. You could use the same procedures/settings which are active when you save a "normal" track recording.

Best regards, Tilo
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 03, 2022, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: Andrea65 on September 03, 2022, 10:02:20 AM
Hello Orux, thanks for your further support, but even this time, no way to have that recorded trace with a good thumbnail.

By the way, in the pure spirit of cooperation and honest feedback, I have to report to you the following:
1) Since my first use of your app (2 years ago or so), I never understood why a so complex menu and why 2 or 3 entries for the same topic (like traces, waypoints and maps).
2) Why traces, waypoints and maps have i) a page entry with their name, ii) another page entry with their icon, and iii) another page entry with the Gear-icon? I find all this confusing and if you do not use the app daily, you get lost every time.
3) Still today, I do not have understood how to set the "language" option for the full interface: I am still have some part in Italian, others in English and "probably" I also jumped over some line in Spanish (no problem, I can read Spanish as well). Is there the option to set the language? Where?

In my opinion, you should consider to redesign the menu and the tons of configuration options following more a human centric approach (simpler menu, fewer options....)

Thanks and regards, Andrea

Hello!

1) & 2) Some menu entries has (maps entry, for example):a) name-> if you click it, you open the submenu entries. All the names
b) an icon->for accessing the map list.c) a direct access to the settings of the maps.
Each one has its own function.
3) Global settings-->application-->force language. Here you can select a different that your phone default language. With Android 13 you can select a different language for each app in Android settings.
When a word or phrase is not translated, the app shows the phrase in the app's default language, which is English. It is rare that you have seen phrases in Spanish, it should not show Spanish if you have Italian selected. It should show either Italian or, failing that, English. The Italian translation has quite a few untranslated parts, there will be quite a lot in English.
It is difficult to offer all the functionalities by reducing the menus. The app is used in many ways. But you have two options, I don't know if you have tried them:

Global settings-->lite version. It reduces the menus and options to the basic ones, usually for those who want the app to record routes or follow them, and little else.
Global Settings-->Unified Interface. With all the options in the side menu, with a brief explanation of what they are for.

Yes, many times I have considered offering a separate basic version, with the minimum functions.
About the problem with the thumbnails. I don't know what you can do anymore, does it happen with all versions (beta and GP)?

orux


Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 03, 2022, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: tstreibl on September 03, 2022, 12:13:59 PM
Hello Orux,

found some small improvement options for Beta 4 and the Play Store Edition (both show same behaviour):
-  when you toggle the route alarm the route alarm symbol is not updated
Hello!

--the alarm icon is visible if there is one of the two possible alarms (far from route or near waypoints alarm).
Quote-  there's a great option to load multiple routes into the map or to create multiple routes with the routing tool. Each route has a start and an end waypoint which you can touch to see a menue about the route. When I choose "follow route" in this menue the app doesn't follow the activated route. It always follows the route which was created first. You can test this by creating a short and a long route. In the height diagram you see the length of the route you follow. If you remove the first route and choose "follow route" the app still follows the deleted route! It would be great if we could select which route is the "active route". Maybe you even could make this choice visible somehow (e.g. use a grey color for inaktive routes)? The advantage:  you could plan different route options, load them all together in the map and choose duing your ride where to go.
I can not reproduce that problem. I think it is working fine. Maybe you can record a video and sent it to me.
In the last versions you can tap the path of the loades routes, and change the color, and let only the route you are following with slopes colors.

Quote- if you create a route with the routing tool and save it into the database it would be nice if the app would ask for a name. You could use the same procedures/settings which are active when you save a "normal" track recording.

Best regards, Tilo
It may be a good idea, I study it.




orux


Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: tstreibl on September 04, 2022, 10:48:41 PM
Hi Orux,

In deed I thought that the alarm icon would indicate if "route alarm" is on or off. Thanks for explaining.

I tried to reproduce the road selection, but I couldn't figure out which test condition triggered the reported "problem". In my new attempt everything worked well. I'll report again with a video if I can describe the test case properly.

Best regards, Tilo   
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 11, 2022, 04:05:43 PM
Hello,
When I move a track from a folder to another the track is moved but stays also to in the source folder.
I have to refresh the screen by changing the active folder or by going out then coming back to first folder.
Before this version this bug wasn't present.
Orux, is it possible fo you to have a look at this?
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 11, 2022, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: YvanCB on August 30, 2022, 04:48:40 PM
Hello,
My Huawei P40 pro + uses EMUI 12.
Impossible to know what version of Android is under that EMUI version.
I tried dontkillmyapp.com but they don't talk about my EMUI version.

I have a last thing to test. The performance mode on battery management..

(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/23/aqAO.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/23/aqAO.jpg)

🤞🤞🤞

Regards.

Hello, Still same bug with the "Performance Mode" . Oruxmaps loose the GPS signal ==> creation of a straight line between the moment the signal is loose and the the moment it comes back.
The strange thing is that if I launch another software which use GPS, Oruxmaps works fine again.

How Oruxmaps verify if the GPS signal is OK during a recording? During a record, is there a way to force Oruxmaps to ask if the GPS signal is present?
I'm really annoyed by this bug!

regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on September 12, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: YvanCB on September 11, 2022, 06:22:54 PM
Hello, Still same bug with the "Performance Mode" . Oruxmaps loose the GPS signal ==> creation of a straight line between the moment the signal is loose and the the moment it comes back.
The strange thing is that if I launch another software which use GPS, Oruxmaps works fine again.

How Oruxmaps verify if the GPS signal is OK during a recording? During a record, is there a way to force Oruxmaps to ask if the GPS signal is present?
I'm really annoyed by this bug!

regards.
Android's power management system (Doce) is very peculiar. If Doce comes into play, it freezes the apps, so they can't react, as their processes are suddenly stopped.

For example, OruxMaps monitors the time between each two positioning, to activate the alarm of 'too much time without GPS positioning'. But this doesn't work when Doce has frozen the app!!!! If the app is stopped, it can't react, because there isn't any app process running.

It is normal for OruxMaps to work again when you activate another app, because Android takes all the apps out of the freezer, because it can no longer save energy if the CPU and/or screen are forced to be active because you are using another app.

The important thing is that you have well configured energy management, and OruxMaps can skip the use of Doce.

The experience with Doce since it was implemented with Android 8 has been very unfortunate, for various reasons, especially because the manufacturers have implemented their own systems, unrelated to Doce, with complex configuration, including some that the user cannot decide so that it does not act .

The only Android standard is that apps can know if they're optimized or not related to power management. But this setting may not be enough. An app can be set to NOT optimized and put in the freezer, because the phone is smarter than the user...
These problems gave rise to dontkillmyapp.com and similar sites.
The important issues:
--Do not use power saving modes
--Include OruxMaps in the list of NOT optimized apps, or other similar ones related to protected apps, that can work in the background,...
--Test in OruxMaps in sensors--GPS-->location provider merged (deactivated).

Other links:
https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/article-list/article-detail/en-gb15769601/

https://nine-faq.9folders.com/articles/37422-stop-your-huawei-smartphone-from-closing-apps-when-you-lock-the-screen



orux

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 12, 2022, 06:52:01 PM
Whaoo! What a long answer! Tank you very much for the spent time for me. :D

The problem is that I have already done all these things, several times. I even made a factory reset on my P40 Pro. :'(
The "Fused Location Provider" is greyed and turned off. No more possibilities about this:
(https://mini.ouplo.com/16/25/9WVg.jpg) (https://full.ouplo.com/16/25/9WVg.jpg)

I think the game is over for me and my P40 Pro. No more ideas?

Regards and thanks a lot!
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: jherb on September 14, 2022, 11:43:21 PM
I am using 9.4.0beta 4.

In the graph in the track statistics the legend is shown in the language of the Android system (German in my case). So it says "Geschwindigkeit (km/h)" eventhough I have set the language in the options of OruxMaps to English and restarted the app. Everything else seems to be shown in English.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Lenz on September 17, 2022, 12:34:07 AM
Hello Orux,
in 'viewshed - paint non visible areas' I have strange patterns (nearly symmetric)  in the north east, south east, south west and north west whereas in the original vieshed mode with painted visible areas no patterns appear (screenshots).
I use Sonny's LIDAR dem-files.

Regards
Lenz
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 17, 2022, 06:34:14 AM
Hello,
Same thing for me.
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: abdullahosm on September 21, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
Hello, thank you very much for your great development and efforts in this application, and I would like to ask a question, as I:
  Tried to update the GraphHopper offline routing files and it didn't work, it says different version, what version of GraphHopper is compatible with OruxMaps?
Regards
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 24, 2022, 10:30:33 AM
Hello,
I don't know the advantages for GraphHopper. For my part I use Brouter and it works well.
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: abdullahosm on September 25, 2022, 09:49:44 PM
Thank you very much, I used graphhopper-web-0.11.0.jar to create routing maps and succeeded in making routing files that work great with the latest OruxMaps beta

Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on September 25, 2022, 10:02:09 PM
Hello,
I tried GraphHopper for the first time. Nothing to do, juste have to download the file xxx.ghz for routing data and it works.
I dont't understand why abdullahosm have to used something called "graphhopper-web-0.11.0.jar".
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: abdullahosm on September 25, 2022, 10:34:52 PM
The xxx.ghz files you mentioned are generated via graphhopper-web-0.11.0.jar, I did this because I wanted to create new xxx.ghz files with today's date and include the new routes on the map, And you can do that by graphhopper-web-0.11. 0.jar:
https://github.com/graphhopper/graphhopper/releases/tag/0.11.0
Download your country map from:
http://download.geofabrik.de/index.html

then run java -Ddw.graphhopper.datareader.file=xxxx.osm.pbf -jar graphhopper-web-0.11.0.jar server config.yml
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: franck.etienne on September 25, 2022, 11:58:25 PM
Hi Orux, thank's for oruxmaps.

My phone is under android13 (pixel6a), with x-plore update, I can reach android/data repository.

I have some remarks/requests :
- Is it possible to suppress intermediate repository oruxmaps as we are already in com.orux.oruxmapsbeta
- But I can't reach tracklogs (perhaps due to database ?). Is it possible to separate tracks from tracklogs ?
- I would try to modify the storage folder but i can't choose a folder in external files ?
(//)

Thank's
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: odin on September 27, 2022, 01:06:51 AM
Thanks for making a 0.0.1 old api install apk, just upgraded to new phone and it's great to be able to keep all my old directories on the sdcard without migrating.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: franck.etienne on September 27, 2022, 06:52:57 PM
Wich version is in https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk ?
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Tronpo on September 29, 2022, 08:38:11 AM
Quote from: franck.etienne on September 27, 2022, 06:52:57 PM
Wich version is in https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk ?

it is an empty apk, it works to be able to install the beta without the restrictions of Android with private storage so that everything works as before there is also one for GP It's on the forum.

𝕥𝕣𝕠ℕ𝕡𝕠
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: jherb on October 02, 2022, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: jherb on September 14, 2022, 11:43:21 PM
I am using 9.4.0beta 4.

In the graph in the track statistics the legend is shown in the language of the Android system (German in my case). So it says "Geschwindigkeit (km/h)" eventhough I have set the language in the options of OruxMaps to English and restarted the app. Everything else seems to be shown in English.
I checked with beta 6 and it is fixed. Thank you.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: Haran on October 11, 2022, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: orux on August 23, 2022, 07:00:00 PM

Use previously this beta apk if you want to use the directories in the root of the internal/SD storage.
https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk (https://www.oruxmaps.org/OruxMapsBeta0.0.1.apk)

orux


Yeah, much better
[EDIT]
Uhm... no, it doesn't work well :-( I returned to v.8

Haran
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: YvanCB on November 24, 2022, 07:16:11 AM
 Hello all,
Do you know what's happened, there's no more activity on this forum?
So sad I hope there is nothing wrong with M. Orux!
Regards.
Title: Re: New beta versions 9.4.xx
Post by: orux on November 24, 2022, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: YvanCB on November 24, 2022, 07:16:11 AM
Hello all,
Do you know what's happened, there's no more activity on this forum?
So sad I hope there is nothing wrong with M. Orux!
Regards.

Sorry, I had been in super busy mode. I will try to come back today.

orux