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#1
BETAS / Re: New beta 10.7.x
August 12, 2024, 09:12:33 PM
Hello,
I have got an issue with the "Match in Brouter" function.
There is no base map when I compare the "Brouted Track" (called "New Track") and the "Original Track".


Can you tell me how I can sole it?
Which base maps is supposed to be used?


Regards.
#2
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 21, 2024, 01:50:52 PM
OK, Now it's really clear. I was trying to obtain something impossible to have.
Thank you for you help. Have a good day.

Regards.
#3
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 21, 2024, 12:35:18 PM
QuoteThe pop up appears ONLY :
- when the requested tile is NOT in the current map
- but is present in SEVERAL other local maps

I completly agree with this.
If I don't want any pop-up I have to make sure that the tile to be displayed is only in one map.
This requires that there is no overlap area.
If I don't have overlapping another problem occurs : when OM comes at the edge of the map an "empty" area will then appear. This "empty" area will be there until the center of the screen is on this area and that OM switches to the other map.

It seems I'm looking for something that is impossible to obtain in Offline mode although it is obtainable in Online mode, isn't it?

Thank you Laurent, I don't want to disturb you, I just want to understand...

Regards.

#4
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 21, 2024, 09:41:09 AM
Hello Laurent,

I really appreciate your help :D !

I know the big difference between Online and Offline mode:
Online: Datas are on servers.
Offline: Datas are on the smartphone's memory card.

Therefor I'm sorry but something is still not clear for me. I still can't understand why OM manages to display images from the servers without any "pop-up".
How datas are organized on the servers so that everything is perfectly "smooth".

Do you think that the Online image distribution mode (via servers) could be used by OM with Offline maps?
If not (and I'm afraid it is), why  :( ?

Regards.
#5
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 21, 2024, 06:28:55 AM
Hello,

By having this discussion with Laurent I understood a lot of little things about creating maps for OM with Mobac.
However, I didn't understand why Online maps don't have the same popup problem. How files are created on the servers so that everything runs smoothly.
The maps are necessarily stored on computer files. There are surely thousands of them living together and we never get a question asking which maps we want to display when we use these online maps.
If anyone has a technical answer to this weird question I'm interested.

Regards.

PS to Laurent: I really appreciate your help. Thank you very much 😃!
#6
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 18, 2024, 12:34:28 AM
Hello,
I have created 4 files for a big area. The 4 files define a big square of 4 little squares.
Each file have zoom from 9 to 17.
Everything is ok when I stay in the area of the file.
When I go on the border I get this:


I have to go on the area of the other file to see the desired map.

I'm going crazy. It's not really what I want.

Is it possible to have a kind of working like online maps (no borders, no pop-up)?
What is the big difference with online maps?

Regards.
#7
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 17, 2024, 08:19:39 PM
Hello Laurent,

I'm very happy by your answer. Thank you very much!!!
You give me lot of usefull informations.
I will make tests and will come back here to give you the results.

Regards.
#8
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 17, 2024, 04:13:31 PM
I recently recreated all maps I need.
Here is the list of all possible maps (not all created because I don't need all these one):

  • Zoom 02 to 14 :    1 file for all the France. File created
  • zoom 15 :    4 files for all the France. Files created
  • zoom 16 :    16 files for all the France. Files created
  • zoom 17 :    64 files for all the France. Some of these files are created
  • zoom 18 :    256 files for all the France. Some of these files are created

Quotehow do you want that OM may know which one you want... then it asks for. Normal and intelligent behaviour....
In fact OM could choose the one it wants because the overlapped area shown exactly the same thing.

QuoteWhat I would suggest you is to gather in a unique map file all zoom levels for each zone.
Maybe I can try your idea. But if I want to have the z18 that represents lots of different files.
I will let you know about this option...

Regards.
#9
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 17, 2024, 12:47:57 PM
EN FRANCAIS:

Bonjour,

Pour rappel voici le pop-up ennuyeux dont je parle:



Ce pop-up apparait lorsque je zoome sur une zone dont 2 fonds de cartes se chevauchent.
Lorsque sur le terrain je cher cherche mon chemin en utilisant OM je suis obligé de zoomer et dé-zoomer plusieurs fois d'affilé. Du coup j'ai ce pop-up à répétition => c'est vraiment embêtant!

Lorsque je désélectionne l'option "Setting/Maps/Zoom settings/Zoom autoload" il n'y a plus de pop-up mais du coup plus de changement de zoom non plus (mais je crois que c'est le but précis de cette option).

J'ai également modifier l'option "Settings/Maps/Load maps automatically" pour la mettre sur "Scrolling out of avail. range".

Malgré la modification de ces options j'ai toujours le souci de pop up.

Suis-je en train de rater quelque chose ou y a-t-il un axe d'amélioration possible sur OM?

Cordialement.
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IN ENGLISH:

As a reminder here is the annoying pop-up I'm talking about:



It happens when I zoom in on an area where there is overlapping with 2 maps.
When in the field I'm looking for my way using OM I have to zoom in and out several times in a row. So I have this pop-up repeatedly => very annoying!

When I deselect the "Setting/Maps/Zoom settings/Zoom autoload" option there is no more pop-up but no more zoom changes either (but I think that is the precise purpose of this option).

I also changed the "Settings/Maps/Load maps automatically" option to "Scrolling out of avail. range".

Despite modifying these options I still have the problem of pop up.

Am I missing something or is there a possible area for improvement on OM?

Regards.
#10
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 17, 2024, 07:22:37 AM
Hello,
In the previous post I was thinking that I found a solution. I fact no, I still have problems when I zoom in in a overlapped area.

When I'm riding and I'm looking for my way with OM I have to zoom-in and zoom-out very often.
It's very annoying to have a pop-up asking me what map I want to use every time that I search in a overlapped area.

@orux: Is it possible to have an option in the parameters of OM to avoid this pop-up?

Regards.
#11
MAPAS/MAPS / Re: Maps with MOBAC
June 14, 2024, 11:21:12 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your very interesting answer. I have used overlapped maps since a long time but there was an issue when I was in the overlapped area. OM asked me very often what map I wanted to use. I think the problem was due to the fact that overlapped maps were not created in the same date and that that images were different for the same area.
I have re-created all my overlapped maps, now the shown overlapped areas are the same, it seems there is no more issue.
Regards.
#12
GENERAL / Re: Using layered maps that overlap
June 14, 2024, 11:08:29 AM
Hello,

I have the same problem as you. Have you found a solution to avoid these questions every time you zoom in and out on an area with overlapping maps?
The screen when OM asking me what map I want to load:


For information I put a screenshot of the kind of overlapping I'm talking about:

Regards.

PS: I think I found a solution to my problem of OM asking wich Map I want to load. The maps were created at different date. Then the pictures shown for the same area are not the same.
#13
GENERAL / Re: Screen selection when overlaping mpas
June 09, 2024, 11:32:14 AM
Hello,

Would it be more clever to create, for a given area, multimap files which would include all the desired zoom levels (z2 to z17 or z18)?

For example :
South-East of France : 1 multimap file with all zoom levels
South-West of France : 1 multimap file with all zoom levels
Etc...

Or perhaps I have to remove overlapping zone? In his case no more question when changing zoom level? There will be only one file for the wanted area and zoom.

What are your advises?

Regards.

PS: During a zoom in or zoom out in a overlapped area OM cannot choose by himself the map to be displayed. I don't understand why because images of the proposed maps are the same.
Can you explain to me why?
Regards.
#14
GENERAL / Re: Screen selection when overlaping mpas
June 09, 2024, 10:40:19 AM
Hello,

Thank you for very much your answer. Your solution is not OK for me because I can't change the zoom level.
For the moment I have got two kinds of files (created with Mobac) : multimap (several zoom level in one file) and standard map (one file = one zoom level).

For the World (multimap) :
Z2 to z13 => 1 file

For France, my country (standard map):
z14 => 1 file
z15 => 4 files
Z16 => 16 files
z17 => 64 files
z18 => 256 files

How can I do to to have OM don't asking me when, for exemple, I'm in z15 and z16 have to be displayed in a z16 overlapping zone?
Perhaps I have to recreate my my map files in a different way...

Regards.
#15
GENERAL / Screen selection when overlaping mpas
June 09, 2024, 08:16:03 AM
Hello,

I use overlapping maps. When I change the zoom level if there are 2 maps available (overlaping zone) Oruxmaps asks me which map I want to use. It's make sense.
The displayed things are exactly the same regardless of the chosen maps.
The problem is that it's a bit annoying when I zoom in and out repeatedly.
Isn't there a trick to get Oruxmpas to use one of the maps without showing me this screen?
Whatever the choosen map the display will be OK.




Regards.