New beta 10.8.x

[Lenz]

I completely agree with you, my comment was not to deny your request just to inform  .

Hello Tronpo,
no criticism from my side - also just an information what I tried to bring the profiles in the order I would like to have them.

I tried something more and found out, that renaming and deleting can cause problems and their effect can vanish within one second.

• Updating the brouter routing data via the brouter app (v 1.7.7) restores all original profiles, so deleting leads to nothing, renaming to doublets  of profiles with different names. Updating the routing data via OM is OK.
• Deleted OM profiles will be restored when starting OM - but renaming works.
• Logically renamed original brouter profiles have to be assigned to the brouter server modes foot/bicycle/motorcar fast/short. If you don't, problems appear when you tap on a waypoint and want to search a route using brouter.

But this is just whining at a very high level. I'm really glad to have the possibility to show all profiles.

Best regards
Martin

[Tronpo]

I did indeed come to the same conclusions as you, and I found some solutions from the user's side
To avoid conflicts when renaming, use basic names, without tiles, separation, etc ,icons.
To avoid resetting OM profiles ,Move from brouter to memory card, oruxmaps can't write there.
To avoid resetting brouter profiles, I update the segments from OruxMaps, much more convenient as well.
While waiting for new versions of OruxMaps, I am delighted with the planner and its exponential progress in the latest versions, you can get a lot out of brouter I always think that the best is yet to come.
And oruxmaps needs to have a high-level planner like it's achieving.

Best regards!!

[Tronpo]

Hello Tronpo,
no criticism from my side - also just an information what I tried to bring the profiles in the order I would like to have them.

I tried something more and found out, that renaming and deleting can cause problems and their effect can vanish within one second.

• Updating the brouter routing data via the brouter app (v 1.7.7) restores all original profiles, so deleting leads to nothing, renaming to doublets  of profiles with different names. Updating the routing data via OM is OK.
• Deleted OM profiles will be restored when starting OM - but renaming works.
• Logically renamed original brouter profiles have to be assigned to the brouter server modes foot/bicycle/motorcar fast/short. If you don't, problems appear when you tap on a waypoint and want to search a route using brouter.

But this is just whining at a very high level. I'm really glad to have the possibility to show all profiles.

Best regards
Martin

Hello with the latest beta 7, I don't have access to all brouter profiles.
@Lenz You can confirm if the same thing happens to you

[IBERO]

Buenas noches Orux:

Acabo de llegar de probar la nueva beta. Y expongo mi experiencia:
- Por qué se ha limitado la longitud mínima en el filtrado del segmento del escalador a 200 metros?. Pienso que esto,lo que hace es limitar está utilidad al ciclismo (yo lo práctico) y quizás al de carretera.
- Si lo que se intenta, es hacer más atractiva la app para que más gente la utilice, en mi opinión debería seguir como antes y que cada usuario lo filtre a  su criterio en función del  deporte que va a practicar.
Pongo un ejemplo: una persona en silla de ruedas, podría filtrar una ruta a realizar y ver sus dificultades (pendientes) a través del segmento del escalador y seguro que ya una pendiente de más de 50 metros al 3% le resultaría fuerte.
- Por otra parte, vería más Interesante y práctica, la inclusión o convivencia de 2 cuadros de mandos, que se pudieran elegir con un solo deslizamiento del dedo. Así cuando entrara la gráfica del escalador, la que se sitúa encima del cuadro, al deslizar este, tuviera el otro cuadro con sólo los campos del segmento del escalador y así alternativamente.

Muchas gracias y enhorabuena, por tu trabajo

[Lenz]

Hello with the latest beta 7, I don't have access to all brouter profiles.
@Lenz You can confirm if the same thing happens to you

Hi Tronpo,
in my case all 11 OM and all 21 brouter profiles are shown in the dropdown list. I created a two point route and let it recalculate with every profile and all worked well (except car-eco-de which always caused an error).
My profiles are on the internal storage in the media folder as i don't have a memory card.
By the way, in beta 7 OM creates a 'new' profile called 'remote.brf' which is identical to 'OM_Running.brf'

[Tronpo]

Hi Tronpo,
in my case all 11 OM and all 21 brouter profiles are shown in the dropdown list. I created a two point route and let it recalculate with every profile and all worked well (except car-eco-de which always caused an error).
My profiles are on the internal storage in the media folder as i don't have a memory card.
By the way, in beta 7 OM creates a 'new' profile called 'remote.brf' which is identical to 'OM_Running.brf'

Hello, I already found the key, in this beta 7, it seems that the app needs the permissions to manage all the folders to be able to access all the profiles. In the previous one it was not necessary. It also seems to have fixed other bugs related to "all profiles" when not used from the scheduler.
Thank you for your answer.
I imagine that you have noticed that now we can configure the profiles (which have a possibility) from the planner by clicking ⚙️ This gives a new level of use to Profiles!!

[Tronpo]

Hi Tronpo,
in my case all 11 OM and all 21 brouter profiles are shown in the dropdown list. I created a two point route and let it recalculate with every profile and all worked well (except car-eco-de which always caused an error).
My profiles are on the internal storage in the media folder as i don't have a memory card.
By the way, in beta 7 OM creates a 'new' profile called 'remote.brf' which is identical to 'OM_Running.brf'

Another piece of information, if you look in the OruxMaps folders there is a new folder called brouter, there is where the profiles of the OM_profiles app are now saved. You keep seeing them because they were recorded from the previous beta in the brouter folder.
I install each beta from 0, so I can better see the changes and avoid legacy bugs.
Best regards

[Lenz]

Another piece of information, if you look in the OruxMaps folders there is a new folder called brouter, there is where the profiles of the OM_profiles app are now saved. You keep seeing them because they were recorded from the previous beta in the brouter folder.
I install each beta from 0, so I can better see the changes and avoid legacy bugs.
Best regards

Hello Tronpo,
thanks für the information about the new profiles folder. Finding all changes in OM sometimes seems like a treasure hunt to me.

Starting from zero is surely best to find new features and bugs. I've always been too lazy to configure OM from scratch each time a new beta is published. I know that I can import settings via profiles, maps (wms, wmts, composite), intents and legends but predefined (and not wanted) intents and wms maps are not replaced by the backup and have to be deleted manually. Moreover these steps have to be done individually. The optimal settings backup and restore routine should unify these steps to a complete settings backup.

The option to change profiles' settings (the gear wheel) is really a great improvement to the route planner.

[Tronpo]

Hello orux !!
In beta 7, the dashboard altitude graph, when you press the magnifying glass to zoom in on the current segment graph is only held for a few seconds and restored to the full altitude graph. I think this is not the desired behavior.
The climber segment graph interacts perfectly with the altitude graph of the dashboard.
Best regards.

[Tronpo]

Hello again Orux!!
It would be interesting that the climber segments will be part of the alarms (when we follow the route) in this way when using the screen off it will turn on when entering a climber segment.

Best regards!!

[ut]

In new beta appears this adverting screen..
perhaps it could be better in upper left menu - news (envelope icon)?

[IBERO]

Buenas noches Orux:

Acabo de llegar de probar la nueva beta. Y expongo mi experiencia:
- Por qué se ha limitado la longitud mínima en el filtrado del segmento del escalador a 200 metros?. Pienso que esto,lo que hace es limitar está utilidad al ciclismo (yo lo práctico) y quizás al de carretera.
- Si lo que se intenta, es hacer más atractiva la app para que más gente la utilice, en mi opinión debería seguir como antes y que cada usuario lo filtre a  su criterio en función del  deporte que va a practicar.
Pongo un ejemplo: una persona en silla de ruedas, podría filtrar una ruta a realizar y ver sus dificultades (pendientes) a través del segmento del escalador y seguro que ya una pendiente de más de 50 metros al 3% le resultaría fuerte.
- Por otra parte, vería más Interesante y práctica, la inclusión o convivencia de 2 cuadros de mandos, que se pudieran elegir con un solo deslizamiento del dedo. Así cuando entrara la gráfica del escalador, la que se sitúa encima del cuadro, al deslizar este, tuviera el otro cuadro con sólo los campos del segmento del escalador y así alternativamente.

Muchas gracias y enhorabuena, por tu trabajo

Para mí, en el senderismo por ejemplo, la longitud mínima de 200 m. en el filtrado, es excesiva.

[Lenz]

Hello Orux,
the alternative routes in the route planner of beta 8 are a fantastic improvement. Just one suggestion: could you please add the length and duration of the selected route to the ones of the alternatives on the bottom right - so it's easier to compare the routes. Adding ascent and descent would make this feature perfect in my opinion. The data of the selected route on top of the screen waste too much space on smaller displays.

Best regards
Martin

[Tronpo]

Hello Orux,
the alternative routes in the route planner of beta 8 are a fantastic improvement. Just one suggestion: could you please add the length and duration of the selected route to the ones of the alternatives on the bottom right - so it's easier to compare the routes. Adding ascent and descent would make this feature perfect in my opinion. The data of the selected route on top of the screen waste too much space on smaller displays.

Best regards
Martin

I like your proposal, when adding the selected route to the comparison you could fix the colors of  route, in this way the colors will not alternate when selecting one or the other route, which is a little misleading.
Small nuance for another big improvement in this planner, which is getting better every day.
Best regards

[Stefanand]

Yes, I also thought that there was a button to activate the automatic zoom, when I read in the description of the beta "two new buttons" maybe it stayed in draft and in the next beta it will be.

Hi, any chance to get such a button, to activate deactivate over the side menu is sometimes bit tricky.